Spike Tassel

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  two witness ruling ?

  by KAYTEE in

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  if a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.

  if not........................ kt.

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  If the elders had been there at the criminal trial, they'd count as witnesses themselves!
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  two witness ruling ?

  by KAYTEE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.

  if not........................ kt.

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  OUTLAW now asks:— Do you support the WBT$ Rules that Protect Pedophiles?..

  I answer truthfully, I would need to know what you think they are first
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  TMZ has a photo of Paris and her brother at the kingdom hall Tues night!!!

  by Pandoras cat11 in

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  i know, i know, more michael jackson news.

  this for some reason has got me ticked off.

  if you go to the tmz website you will see a photo of paris and her brother holding the "sing praises to jehovah" songbook.

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  they will be treated as normal kids in the kingdom Hall

  real personal interest is an amazing leveler, isn't it?
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  two witness ruling ?

  by KAYTEE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.

  if not........................ kt.

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  I support the rehabilitation of Pedophiles and their enablers, just as I support all of other sinners, but none of our sins. 1 Corinthians 6:11 and Hebrews 4:12-16 are among the scriptures which allow us to rise above our fallen human nature and see the possibilities that Jehovah God himself sees. Then, we can work in harmony with them for the glory of Him and the benefit of all of us sinners.
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  two witness ruling ?

  by KAYTEE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.

  if not........................ kt.

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  OUTLAW (Post 12154) asks:— Do you feel you need the Protection,the WBT$ provides for Pedophiles?

  I answer for myself, No
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  "Time and unforseen occurence"...a Witness loophole Scripture when your Sh## out of luck!

  by Witness 007 in

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  i hate this scripture!

  it's a loophole....jehovah is of course protecting his servants but when one of his pioneers or elders is hit by a runaway car and killed it was just...."time and unforseen occurence...".

  yes jehovah will look out for you if you pray to him, but.....the "time and unforseen occurence" clause may still get you in the end!.

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  To Priest73, the books that I refer to are non-fiction and off modern printing presses, not so delicate or ancient as a Constantinian tome.

  The cake may go to "your" seat; on me, it would actually go to the "front porch"
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  two witness ruling ?

  by KAYTEE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.

  if not........................ kt.

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  Chris (Post 12832):— Am I correct in saying that it is your belief a child must present 2 eyewitnesses to prove they were abused?

  Regarding the child needing to present …, No

  Chris (Post 12832):— And if the offender refuses to confess, is it your viewpoint that it is permissible for the victim to report the crime to the police?

  Based on freedom of choice, Yes

  Chris (Post 12832):— And if the offender is convicted, does that qualify in your view, as the needed proof to require the elders to take judicial action against the offender?

  Assuming a fair trial, Yes
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  Nehemia Gordon and the pronunciation of the tetragrammaton

  by gubberningbody in

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  http://www.karaite-korner.org/yhwh_2.pdf.

  a very interesting paper.

  i've only begun to read it.. i just finished watching this lecture.. http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/52_gordon.html.

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  the insertions shouldn't be random, I agree, they should be comprehensive and consistent, throughout
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  The Fine Art of Saying "I'm Sorry".

  by BabaYaga in

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  is it almost a lost art?

  could you say it while you were a jehovah's witness?

  i will tell you this: it took me many, many years of being out of the organization before i could learn how to say "i'm sorry" and truly mean it.

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  Thanks, BabaYaga for reminding us of this Topic at

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/178667/2/Inability-to-take-hints
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  two witness ruling ?

  by KAYTEE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.

  if not........................ kt.

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  Chris (Post 12830)

  Do you support the Witnesses' threats and retaliation against the victim and the victim's families if the abuse is reported to the police?

  Threats and retaliation are worldly, fleshly methods. They do not reflect a correct application or understanding of Galatians chapter 5. Jehovah says that He will repay, so it is not up to any humans to exercise a "vigilante justice". There must be compassion to the "effectively"-fatherless boy, in line with James 1:27 [Jack J. Blanco's Clear Water paraphrase there reads:— "Genuine Christianity is the kind that looks after the needs of others, especially suffering orphans and widows. This is the kind of religion that our heavenly Father is looking for in all of His people."]

  This applies to all elements in your question. If someone is that far lacking in self-control [or, self-imposed discipline for the sake of others, and wholesome and healthy living, according to Galatians 5:23, Blanco's paraphrase], I reason that the offender ought to be given remedial therapy in line with my Post 542 above. Blanco's paraphrase of James 1:26 applies to such an offender:— "Now if anyone thinks he's a good Christian and can't control himself or what he says, he's only fooling himself. His Christianity is worthless."

  1 Corinthians 6 must also be adhered to, in its entirety. It is about containment and overcoming of the problems, and healing for all.